Comments on: Rick Warren's Ex-Gay Group: What You Need To Know http://blog.mattalgren.com/2008/12/rick-warrens-ex-gay-group-what-you-need-to-know/ A gay Christian moving the forbidden from the footnotes. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:52:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mustlovetrucks http://blog.mattalgren.com/2008/12/rick-warrens-ex-gay-group-what-you-need-to-know/#comment-4977 Mustlovetrucks Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:46:00 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=322#comment-4977 GOd's word was written by God inspired, God's intervenning, men of Faith in Christ Jesus who seen the actual accounts. The translations were of God fearing men who understood, totally studied and researched the translations they were writting, then had others of the same convictions and knowledge, proof and reproof the translations that were then comliled by many others of the same conviction, same knowledge and Has changed many peoples lives who have lived what they believed on, where a truely God/spirit inspired word of God. Sorry you find that hard to believe, but that's what faith is all about. I have homosexual relatives and I have expressed what the Holy bible has spoke of freely, to much avail of any respons. Anyone who hears the word of God, and chooses to not respond, is then under the wrath of He who inspired such words. Michelle was only giving a true response by his own faith in that inspired word. GOd’s word was written by God inspired, God’s intervenning, men of Faith in Christ Jesus who seen the actual accounts. The translations were of God fearing men who understood, totally studied and researched the translations they were writting, then had others of the same convictions and knowledge, proof and reproof the translations that were then comliled by many others of the same conviction, same knowledge and Has changed many peoples lives who have lived what they believed on, where a truely God/spirit inspired word of God.
Sorry you find that hard to believe, but that’s what faith is all about.
I have homosexual relatives and I have expressed what the Holy bible has spoke of freely, to much avail of any respons. Anyone who hears the word of God, and chooses to not respond, is then under the wrath of He who inspired such words.

Michelle was only giving a true response by his own faith in that inspired word.

]]> By: Matt Algren http://blog.mattalgren.com/2008/12/rick-warrens-ex-gay-group-what-you-need-to-know/#comment-4966 Matt Algren Sun, 25 Sep 2011 23:50:00 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=322#comment-4966 A) God didn't write the Bible, people did, on top of which, people translated it. B) You fail at metaphors. C) Thanks for stopping by to comment on a nearly two year old comment! A) God didn’t write the Bible, people did, on top of which, people translated it.

B) You fail at metaphors.

C) Thanks for stopping by to comment on a nearly two year old comment!

]]> By: Chaucer7 http://blog.mattalgren.com/2008/12/rick-warrens-ex-gay-group-what-you-need-to-know/#comment-4965 Chaucer7 Sun, 25 Sep 2011 04:44:00 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=322#comment-4965 lol first of all seriously wake up. You're stuck on a silly agenda because it's *popular* to affirm that gays are living a natural life. I'm a really good looking guy and I work with lesbians a lot mainly becuase I run a handyman company and they need handymen more often than they would care to admit in public *GASP*. And they generally despise me lol but that doesn't matter. I also went to christian school and have been teaching the bible to people for many years. I know it well including the supposed wrong greek and hebrew translations that gays would like to call accurate scriptural recitation. I know several celebrate recovery counselors personally and it really works better than any other recovery program out there. Mainly because God is heavily involved and therefore cures many things that worldly recovery programs can't even touch. If I bump into a wall several times and decide that it feels good and I'm actually atracted to the wall. Then I can tell everyone I was born that way I'm genetically predisposed to an attraction to walls be they wood or brick *doesn't matter*. Then I can tell everyone that the scriptures that say that having sex with anything but women are completely wrong and I can twist them to suit my unhealthy relationship with bricks. However, in effect I'm telling God that I'm wiser than he is and I know more than he does about walls even though he manufactured the very atoms that compose the wall. I'm being very arrogant and ungrateful by trying to twist the words that he wrote for my own selfish silly impulses. There you have it in a nutshell. lol first of all seriously wake up. You’re stuck on a silly agenda because it’s *popular* to affirm that gays are living a natural life. I’m a really good looking guy and I work with lesbians a lot mainly becuase I run a handyman company and they need handymen more often than they would care to admit in public *GASP*. And they generally despise me lol but that doesn’t matter. I also went to christian school and have been teaching the bible to people for many years. I know it well including the supposed wrong greek and hebrew translations that gays would like to call accurate scriptural recitation. I know several celebrate recovery counselors personally and it really works better than any other recovery program out there. Mainly because God is heavily involved and therefore cures many things that worldly recovery programs can’t even touch. If I bump into a wall several times and decide that it feels good and I’m actually atracted to the wall. Then I can tell everyone I was born that way I’m genetically predisposed to an attraction to walls be they wood or brick *doesn’t matter*. Then I can tell everyone that the scriptures that say that having sex with anything but women are completely wrong and I can twist them to suit my unhealthy relationship with bricks. However, in effect I’m telling God that I’m wiser than he is and I know more than he does about walls even though he manufactured the very atoms that compose the wall. I’m being very arrogant and ungrateful by trying to twist the words that he wrote for my own selfish silly impulses. There you have it in a nutshell.

]]> By: Michelle http://blog.mattalgren.com/2008/12/rick-warrens-ex-gay-group-what-you-need-to-know/#comment-407 Michelle Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:05:13 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=322#comment-407 I am a former participant in Celebrate Recovery. My leaving the group has been very sad for me, but I cannot in good conscious participate in something that encourages and/or endorses reparative therapy. I didn't know about reparative therapy one way or another when I joined, but over the two years I learned alot about it and CR's intentions to help people 12-Step their way into being straight. The experience hurts my heart on so many levels. I hurt for the gay and lesbian people who love Jesus but are being put through the ringer by CR. I hurt because I left a recovery group that was powerfully healing for me. I hurt because I miss them. Many people with whom I've discussed this think I'm taking a stand that is odd because I'm not GLBT, but, I just can't do it. I can't be part of a program that tries to turn people straight, especially when so much of what makes the program work is the group dynamic. Matt, this kind of approach is so entrenched with conservative evangelicals that I doubt it will be scrubbed from their documents. It's in their printed, published materials as well. The CE's have such a different world view and paradigm about gay = sin = choice = changeable.... They hold strongly to it, so I doubt it will change. I am a former participant in Celebrate Recovery. My leaving the group has been very sad for me, but I cannot in good conscious participate in something that encourages and/or endorses reparative therapy. I didn’t know about reparative therapy one way or another when I joined, but over the two years I learned alot about it and CR’s intentions to help people 12-Step their way into being straight.

The experience hurts my heart on so many levels. I hurt for the gay and lesbian people who love Jesus but are being put through the ringer by CR. I hurt because I left a recovery group that was powerfully healing for me. I hurt because I miss them. Many people with whom I’ve discussed this think I’m taking a stand that is odd because I’m not GLBT, but, I just can’t do it. I can’t be part of a program that tries to turn people straight, especially when so much of what makes the program work is the group dynamic.

Matt, this kind of approach is so entrenched with conservative evangelicals that I doubt it will be scrubbed from their documents. It’s in their printed, published materials as well. The CE’s have such a different world view and paradigm about gay = sin = choice = changeable…. They hold strongly to it, so I doubt it will change.

]]> By: Michelle http://blog.mattalgren.com/2008/12/rick-warrens-ex-gay-group-what-you-need-to-know/#comment-4231 Michelle Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:05:00 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=322#comment-4231 I am a former participant in Celebrate Recovery. My leaving the group has been very sad for me, but I cannot in good conscious participate in something that encourages and/or endorses reparative therapy. I didn't know about reparative therapy one way or another when I joined, but over the two years I learned alot about it and CR's intentions to help people 12-Step their way into being straight. The experience hurts my heart on so many levels. I hurt for the gay and lesbian people who love Jesus but are being put through the ringer by CR. I hurt because I left a recovery group that was powerfully healing for me. I hurt because I miss them. Many people with whom I've discussed this think I'm taking a stand that is odd because I'm not GLBT, but, I just can't do it. I can't be part of a program that tries to turn people straight, especially when so much of what makes the program work is the group dynamic. Matt, this kind of approach is so entrenched with conservative evangelicals that I doubt it will be scrubbed from their documents. It's in their printed, published materials as well. The CE's have such a different world view and paradigm about gay = sin = choice = changeable.... They hold strongly to it, so I doubt it will change. I am a former participant in Celebrate Recovery. My leaving the group has been very sad for me, but I cannot in good conscious participate in something that encourages and/or endorses reparative therapy. I didn’t know about reparative therapy one way or another when I joined, but over the two years I learned alot about it and CR’s intentions to help people 12-Step their way into being straight.

The experience hurts my heart on so many levels. I hurt for the gay and lesbian people who love Jesus but are being put through the ringer by CR. I hurt because I left a recovery group that was powerfully healing for me. I hurt because I miss them. Many people with whom I’ve discussed this think I’m taking a stand that is odd because I’m not GLBT, but, I just can’t do it. I can’t be part of a program that tries to turn people straight, especially when so much of what makes the program work is the group dynamic.

Matt, this kind of approach is so entrenched with conservative evangelicals that I doubt it will be scrubbed from their documents. It’s in their printed, published materials as well. The CE’s have such a different world view and paradigm about gay = sin = choice = changeable…. They hold strongly to it, so I doubt it will change.

]]> By: Beth http://blog.mattalgren.com/2008/12/rick-warrens-ex-gay-group-what-you-need-to-know/#comment-333 Beth Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:45:09 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=322#comment-333 Just want you to know I appreciate you collecting and presenting this info re: Rick and minions. I am appalled by the fact that Obama is currying favor with this foolishness. But I am enraged that so many people I would otherwise consider not brain dead are OK with it. Padded walls keep the noise in and the concussions out. Just want you to know I appreciate you collecting and presenting this info re: Rick and minions. I am appalled by the fact that Obama is currying favor with this foolishness. But I am enraged that so many people I would otherwise consider not brain dead are OK with it.

Padded walls keep the noise in and the concussions out.

]]> By: Beth http://blog.mattalgren.com/2008/12/rick-warrens-ex-gay-group-what-you-need-to-know/#comment-4230 Beth Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:45:00 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=322#comment-4230 Just want you to know I appreciate you collecting and presenting this info re: Rick and minions. I am appalled by the fact that Obama is currying favor with this foolishness. But I am enraged that so many people I would otherwise consider not brain dead are OK with it. Padded walls keep the noise in and the concussions out. Just want you to know I appreciate you collecting and presenting this info re: Rick and minions. I am appalled by the fact that Obama is currying favor with this foolishness. But I am enraged that so many people I would otherwise consider not brain dead are OK with it.

Padded walls keep the noise in and the concussions out.

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