Comments on: Catholic Church Bribes Charity to Keep Priest Jobless http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/01/catholic-church-bribes-charity-to-keep-priest-jobless/ A gay Christian moving the forbidden from the footnotes. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:57:07 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: imihaiu http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/01/catholic-church-bribes-charity-to-keep-priest-jobless/#comment-3511 imihaiu Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:25:44 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=387#comment-3511 There's two sides to every story and even if I've been following this, I can't say right now who was right and who wasn't. The bottom line is we have to continue working for those in need, and for those who aren't involved in any program, if you don't want to give money, you can make donations <a rel="follow" href="http://www.donatecarusa.com/" rel="nofollow">donate car</a> equipment, things you don't need but you know can be donated are useful and will make a huge difference. There's two sides to every story and even if I've been following this, I can't say right now who was right and who wasn't. The bottom line is we have to continue working for those in need, and for those who aren't involved in any program, if you don't want to give money, you can make donations donate car equipment, things you don't need but you know can be donated are useful and will make a huge difference.

]]> By: Catholic Church Threatens to Leave Homeless Out in the Cold | Asterisk http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/01/catholic-church-bribes-charity-to-keep-priest-jobless/#comment-3422 Catholic Church Threatens to Leave Homeless Out in the Cold | Asterisk Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:53:54 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=387#comment-3422 [...] you weren’t convinced that the Catholic Church considers charity an expendable nuisance before, maybe this will do it. The Catholic Archdiocese of [...] [...] you weren’t convinced that the Catholic Church considers charity an expendable nuisance before, maybe this will do it. The Catholic Archdiocese of [...]

]]> By: Matt Algren http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/01/catholic-church-bribes-charity-to-keep-priest-jobless/#comment-632 Matt Algren Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:37:08 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=387#comment-632 Welcome, Bob. There is no "stand" from Rome that Father Geoff cannot run a charity that is funded <em>in part</em> by the Catholic Church. I think that's Amy's point, and it's one I agree with. (Though I would argue that the office of Cardinal is pretty darn close to the top.) If the Los Angeles arch-diocese is interested in donating to a charity that adheres to a strictly Catholic point of view, then they should do that. The founders of CLUE chose to keep the charity intentionally ecumenical in both structure and focus. The board of directors at CLUE consists of persons from Reform Judaism, the Catholic Church, the African Methodist Episcopal Church, the Islamic Shura Council, and the United Methodist Church. Clearly, adhering to Catholic ideals and rules has not previously been an issue. Is Cardinal Mahoney within his rights? Probably. It could be argued that since CLUE is ecumenical and not of any one religion, California's anti-discrimination laws (which include protections against bias against gays) apply. Either way, he has put CLUE's mission at risk. Welcome, Bob.

There is no “stand” from Rome that Father Geoff cannot run a charity that is funded in part by the Catholic Church. I think that’s Amy’s point, and it’s one I agree with. (Though I would argue that the office of Cardinal is pretty darn close to the top.)

If the Los Angeles arch-diocese is interested in donating to a charity that adheres to a strictly Catholic point of view, then they should do that. The founders of CLUE chose to keep the charity intentionally ecumenical in both structure and focus. The board of directors at CLUE consists of persons from Reform Judaism, the Catholic Church, the African Methodist Episcopal Church, the Islamic Shura Council, and the United Methodist Church. Clearly, adhering to Catholic ideals and rules has not previously been an issue.

Is Cardinal Mahoney within his rights? Probably. It could be argued that since CLUE is ecumenical and not of any one religion, California’s anti-discrimination laws (which include protections against bias against gays) apply. Either way, he has put CLUE’s mission at risk.

]]> By: Bob M http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/01/catholic-church-bribes-charity-to-keep-priest-jobless/#comment-631 Bob M Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:38:25 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=387#comment-631 This is not the politics of one man, but the stand of the Catholic Church at large. As such they do have the right to dictate who is in position to run an agency that they fund. If they were interfering with other work opps, that would be different. They are within their rights here. Not pathetic... consistent. This is not the politics of one man, but the stand of the Catholic Church at large. As such they do have the right to dictate who is in position to run an agency that they fund. If they were interfering with other work opps, that would be different. They are within their rights here. Not pathetic… consistent.

]]> By: Amy http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/01/catholic-church-bribes-charity-to-keep-priest-jobless/#comment-618 Amy Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:12:29 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=387#comment-618 Wow. At first I was annoyed by the headline, but, duh, the man's job IS to represent the Catholic church, so, I see where you're coming from. (This isn't some decree of the entire Catholic church, but the politics of one man, a Cardinal. ) The fact that he is representing MY church is such poor light is pathetic. Wow. At first I was annoyed by the headline, but, duh, the man’s job IS to represent the Catholic church, so, I see where you’re coming from. (This isn’t some decree of the entire Catholic church, but the politics of one man, a Cardinal. ) The fact that he is representing MY church is such poor light is pathetic.

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