Comments on: DADT Claims Another Victim http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/02/dadt-claims-another-victim/ A gay Christian moving the forbidden from the footnotes. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:52:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Veterans Day: Thank You Naval ROTC Midshipman Todd Belok | Asterisk http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/02/dadt-claims-another-victim/#comment-3414 Veterans Day: Thank You Naval ROTC Midshipman Todd Belok | Asterisk Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:02:10 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=438#comment-3414 [...] Todd Belok served less than six months before he was kicked out of the Naval Reserve Officers’ Training [...] [...] Todd Belok served less than six months before he was kicked out of the Naval Reserve Officers’ Training [...]

]]> By: Matt Algren http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/02/dadt-claims-another-victim/#comment-2776 Matt Algren Thu, 28 May 2009 00:21:14 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=438#comment-2776 The Washington Post just picked it up yesterday, but otherwise, it's been pretty quiet. And make sure to come back for <a href="http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/02/another-veteran-fired/" rel="nofollow">my next post</a> for more human impact. The Washington Post just picked it up yesterday, but otherwise, it's been pretty quiet. And make sure to come back for my next post for more human impact.

]]> By: Matt Algren http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/02/dadt-claims-another-victim/#comment-1539 Matt Algren Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:18:56 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=438#comment-1539 "One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws." -Martin Luther King, Jr. “One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.”

-Martin Luther King, Jr.

]]> By: Matt Algren http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/02/dadt-claims-another-victim/#comment-4283 Matt Algren Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:18:00 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=438#comment-4283 "One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws." -Martin Luther King, Jr. “One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.”

-Martin Luther King, Jr.

]]> By: Pete http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/02/dadt-claims-another-victim/#comment-1536 Pete Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:28:20 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=438#comment-1536 You're right. EVERYBODY DISOBEY THE LAW!!! I'm gonna start by lighting shit on fire! You’re right. EVERYBODY DISOBEY THE LAW!!! I’m gonna start by lighting shit on fire!

]]> By: Pete http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/02/dadt-claims-another-victim/#comment-4282 Pete Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:28:00 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=438#comment-4282 You're right. EVERYBODY DISOBEY THE LAW!!! I'm gonna start by lighting shit on fire! You’re right. EVERYBODY DISOBEY THE LAW!!! I’m gonna start by lighting shit on fire!

]]> By: steve tabarez http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/02/dadt-claims-another-victim/#comment-1484 steve tabarez Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:39:37 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=438#comment-1484 Well, "Bill", as far as honor and integrity are concerned, what honor is there in helping to keep us subjugated and uneaqual? And what kind of integrity does it take to live by a code that discriminates, and forces people to be hostages of the fear of being dismissed for being who we are? And, what kind of honor is it to be cowardly by not being man enough to approach Mr. Belok, and remind him of the policy? And, what kind of integrity does it take to pursue freedom and democracy abroad, when this policy reflects nothing of the kind? And, why, pray tell, should we be excluded from giving our life for this country on the basis of sexuality? Not that you know.... Well, “Bill”, as far as honor and integrity are concerned, what honor is there in helping to keep us subjugated and uneaqual? And what kind of integrity does it take to live by a code that discriminates, and forces people to be hostages of the fear of being dismissed for being who we are? And, what kind of honor is it to be cowardly by not being man enough to approach Mr. Belok, and remind him of the policy? And, what kind of integrity does it take to pursue freedom and democracy abroad, when this policy reflects nothing of the kind? And, why, pray tell, should we be excluded from giving our life for this country on the basis of sexuality? Not that you know….

]]> By: steve tabarez http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/02/dadt-claims-another-victim/#comment-4281 steve tabarez Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:39:00 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=438#comment-4281 Well, "Bill", as far as honor and integrity are concerned, what honor is there in helping to keep us subjugated and uneaqual? And what kind of integrity does it take to live by a code that discriminates, and forces people to be hostages of the fear of being dismissed for being who we are? And, what kind of honor is it to be cowardly by not being man enough to approach Mr. Belok, and remind him of the policy? And, what kind of integrity does it take to pursue freedom and democracy abroad, when this policy reflects nothing of the kind? And, why, pray tell, should we be excluded from giving our life for this country on the basis of sexuality? Not that you know.... Well, “Bill”, as far as honor and integrity are concerned, what honor is there in helping to keep us subjugated and uneaqual? And what kind of integrity does it take to live by a code that discriminates, and forces people to be hostages of the fear of being dismissed for being who we are? And, what kind of honor is it to be cowardly by not being man enough to approach Mr. Belok, and remind him of the policy? And, what kind of integrity does it take to pursue freedom and democracy abroad, when this policy reflects nothing of the kind? And, why, pray tell, should we be excluded from giving our life for this country on the basis of sexuality? Not that you know….

]]> By: Matt Algren http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/02/dadt-claims-another-victim/#comment-1483 Matt Algren Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:04:19 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=438#comment-1483 The Washington Post just picked it up yesterday, but otherwise, it's been pretty quiet. And make sure to come back for <a href="http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/02/another-veteran-fired/" rel="nofollow">my next post</a> for more human impact. The Washington Post just picked it up yesterday, but otherwise, it’s been pretty quiet. And make sure to come back for my next post for more human impact.

]]> By: Matt Algren http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/02/dadt-claims-another-victim/#comment-1482 Matt Algren Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:02:37 +0000 http://blog.mattalgren.com/?p=438#comment-1482 I doubt it could be more slanted, Bill. This is an opinion blog, not a straight (har!) news site. As for there being no decision from Mr. Trimis or Mr. Perry, I disagree. The US Navy has a <a href="http://www.cnrc.navy.mil/Dep_guide/Dep/policy.htm" rel="nofollow">zero tolerance policy</a> on drug use and underage drinking. As I said in the body of the post, I seriously doubt that these two young men reported the underage drinking that was happening at that frat party. I doubt he's reported the illegal drug use he's seen at GWU. We both know that it's there, but did he report it? Was anybody kicked out of the NROTC for it? And even if the underage drinker or the illegal drug user wasn't in the NROTC, I'm certain that GWU has a policy against it as well, and I know the law in DC does. No, Mr. Trimis and Mr. Perry made a decision based on the fact that they didn't want gay people around. Mr. Perry's own words betray the real reason that this happened. "It was just an uncomfortable situation for other midshipmen." The law should be changed, to be sure. But to paint members of the US Military as helpless pawns of an unjust law is disingenuous to say the least. I doubt it could be more slanted, Bill. This is an opinion blog, not a straight (har!) news site.

As for there being no decision from Mr. Trimis or Mr. Perry, I disagree. The US Navy has a zero tolerance policy on drug use and underage drinking. As I said in the body of the post, I seriously doubt that these two young men reported the underage drinking that was happening at that frat party. I doubt he’s reported the illegal drug use he’s seen at GWU. We both know that it’s there, but did he report it? Was anybody kicked out of the NROTC for it? And even if the underage drinker or the illegal drug user wasn’t in the NROTC, I’m certain that GWU has a policy against it as well, and I know the law in DC does.

No, Mr. Trimis and Mr. Perry made a decision based on the fact that they didn’t want gay people around. Mr. Perry’s own words betray the real reason that this happened. “It was just an uncomfortable situation for other midshipmen.”

The law should be changed, to be sure. But to paint members of the US Military as helpless pawns of an unjust law is disingenuous to say the least.

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