Another Soldier Fired While Obama Sits on his Hands

May 20, 2009

The fight against the military’s absurd Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy continues to rage, this time as MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow brings us the case of Air Force Lt. Colonel Victor Fehrenbach, an 18-year veteran with an exemplary record and nine commendations for 88 missions, including major missions in the immediate wake of 9/11 and in Iraq. Just two years shy of retirement and two weeks before he was scheduled to re-deploy, the Air Force is firing him for being gay.

Lt. Colonel Fehrenbach is added to the ever-growing list of servicemembers fired for the crime of being gay. The list also includes:

This list is just the cases I’ve heard of since President Obama, who during the campaign was boldly vowed to stop DADT, took office. There are 13,000 more honorable servicemembers who have been removed from service to their country because our representatives in Washington, DC won’t remove an obviously unjust law. They won’t act, they won’t say when they’re going to act, they won’t even say if they’re going to act.

Mr. President and other supporters of DADT, you are putting American troops in danger. Next time a soldier is sent home in a pine box, remember: You did this.


  • Paul

    Funny, how this article doesn't talk about how the Gay LtCol patrols gay websites, meets men and invites them back to his house for lascivious and perverted gay sexual encounters. How many times a week does he do this? how many times a month? His naked body was on this perverted gay website. All of this is 'OK' because the Lt Col has nine air medals right? The Air Force has an obligation to separate this gay pilot because Congress has passes the law to make the military expel openly gay homosexuals, the abnormal lifestyle, not the alternate lifestyle. Congress should not change the law; it should enforce the law. Yea!!

  • http://blog.mattalgren.com Matt Algren

    I'm assuming you didn't notice, but this post is from three months before the circumstances of Lt. Col. Fehrenbach's outing were made public. You can find my earlier reaction to the false claims of rape against him here.

    Fehrenbach isn't being booted because he used an internet dating site. He's being booted because he successfully defended himself against rape charges.

    And if we're going to kick out every soldier who has sex, there are going to be a lot of empty Air Force bases.

    Thanks for your comment!

  • Paul

    Hi Matt, thanks for responding. I read about this case as soon as it happened in the Stars and Stripes. I am a military member.

    Matt, most moral people do not participate in websites where they can meet people and have sex with them the first time they meet. He had gay (abnormal) sex, which when admitted to, is against the rules and regulations of the military. It was the LT Col's lewd and lascivious lifestyle that caught up to him, to be honest. If he had not had sex with this person the first time they met at his home, then the person might have had second thoughts about him making a rape allegation against the Lt Col. My point was that most media outlets do not make mention of how he was “outed” but that he was “outed” by a third party (which is not a legitimate reason to cause a military investigation) and that this Lt Col is such a innocent hero and that he has nine Air Medals. No one makes note that he had a nude picture of himself on a gay website, which probably promoted more lewd and lascivious people to his page because they thought he was a lewd and lascivious person too, and that they wanted to have gay abnormal sex. No one makes mention that he trolls the gay web sites looking for other men to have sex with, YUCK. The USAF is bound by Congressional Law to discharge the 'gay pilot', as he is now known as, from the USAF. The President cannot direct an Executive Order that goes against a Constitutionally supported LAW. President Truman could write the E.O. in desegregating the Armed Forces because there was no Congressional Law stating that the Armed Forces will be segregated by racial background. So it's not directly up to our President. Congress has to repeal the Law, which I hope does not happen because having openly LGBT folks serve in the military is against good order and discipline and will kill morale. The studies and surveys that support otherwise are not well founded. Matt, I assume you are a man and I have to ask you, would you want your wife who hypothetically serves in the military to take a shower with a man? Most moral people and those that love their spouse would say 'no', so you have to realize that when you put a homosexual in the shower with a heterosexual that is the situation you create.

    Please read the Congressional law (10 U.S. Code Section 654) that prohibits homosexual (abnormal) behavior in the Armed Forces, Congress has exclusive control over the military according to the Constitution, Section 8 Article I. It is very well written and is very true. Once most people read it they see the light :) Thanks for your response and I hope you have a great day.

    PS. I'm also against the repeal of the DOMA law too. I love the definition of marriage is between one man and one woman!! Those words could never be truer. Who ever heard of a man marrying another man? Crazy and very abnormal. A man and a woman having sex are the only way a child can be conceived and please do not talk to me about test tube babies, artificial insemination, etc. Two men having ANAL sex cannot produce a baby, perhaps just a sore booty, YUCK! The same goes with two women having 'sex' nothing can come from it but a sore tongue, hehehe. So as you can see I am a normal heterosexual and am not for any LGBT political agenda to legalize and same sex marriage BS. Thanks and take care! PAH.

  • Paul

    Hi Matt, thanks for responding. I read about this case as soon as it happened in the Stars and Stripes. I am a military member.

    Matt, most moral people do not participate in websites where they can meet people and have sex with them the first time they meet. He had gay (abnormal) sex, which when admitted to, is against the rules and regulations of the military. It was the LT Col's lewd and lascivious lifestyle that caught up to him, to be honest. If he had not had sex with this person the first time they met at his home, then the person might have had second thoughts about him making a rape allegation against the Lt Col. My point was that most media outlets do not make mention of how he was “outed” but that he was “outed” by a third party (which is not a legitimate reason to cause a military investigation) and that this Lt Col is such a innocent hero and that he has nine Air Medals. No one makes note that he had a nude picture of himself on a gay website, which probably promoted more lewd and lascivious people to his page because they thought he was a lewd and lascivious person too, and that they wanted to have gay abnormal sex. No one makes mention that he trolls the gay web sites looking for other men to have sex with, YUCK. The USAF is bound by Congressional Law to discharge the 'gay pilot', as he is now known as, from the USAF. The President cannot direct an Executive Order that goes against a Constitutionally supported LAW. President Truman could write the E.O. in desegregating the Armed Forces because there was no Congressional Law stating that the Armed Forces will be segregated by racial background. So it's not directly up to our President. Congress has to repeal the Law, which I hope does not happen because having openly LGBT folks serve in the military is against good order and discipline and will kill morale. The studies and surveys that support otherwise are not well founded. Matt, I assume you are a man and I have to ask you, would you want your wife who hypothetically serves in the military to take a shower with a man? Most moral people and those that love their spouse would say 'no', so you have to realize that when you put a homosexual in the shower with a heterosexual that is the situation you create.

    Please read the Congressional law (10 U.S. Code Section 654) that prohibits homosexual (abnormal) behavior in the Armed Forces, Congress has exclusive control over the military according to the Constitution, Section 8 Article I. It is very well written and is very true. Once most people read it they see the light :) Thanks for your response and I hope you have a great day.

    PS. I'm also against the repeal of the DOMA law too. I love the definition of marriage is between one man and one woman!! Those words could never be truer. Who ever heard of a man marrying another man? Crazy and very abnormal. A man and a woman having sex are the only way a child can be conceived and please do not talk to me about test tube babies, artificial insemination, etc. Two men having ANAL sex cannot produce a baby, perhaps just a sore booty, YUCK! The same goes with two women having 'sex' nothing can come from it but a sore tongue, hehehe. So as you can see I am a normal heterosexual and am not for any LGBT political agenda to legalize and same sex marriage BS. Thanks and take care! PAH.

  • Xyrus

    Paul,

    I read your post, and while I support your opinions, I do not agree with them. I don’t know the details of this officer’s discharge or investigation, but believe it or not, but you are serving with gay troops, and [probably] have been ever since you enlisted. That means you’ve showered with them, they’ve seen you naked (and if you weren’t hit on, you probably aren’t real eye candy, so don’t worry too much about it), they probably were in your leadership… face it… you’ve served with gay military members. Any problems at all??? I see your point on marriage, and that’s why I support the Civil Union alternative. Your writing makes the assumption that people “choose” to be gay. When did you choose to be straight? Furthermore, your post lends to the assumption that U.S. troops are not capable of dealing with diversity in the workplace. So being that you are too weak to work with another service member because he/she is different that you shows that you probably need a new profession.

  • hung_chau_lee

    One of the primary questions is the UCMJ article about sodomy. It seems homosexual sodomy is a no-no and heterosexual sodomy is OK. Just look at the “Captain amErika” debacle about pictures posted by her former husband that got her an Article 15 (Non Judicial Punishment) but permitted her to remain in the military. She is now a Lieutenant Colonel in the Air Force Reserve. – or does that mean the Reserve has a different standard than the active force. It’s still a misapplication of the law and needs to change.