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	<title>Comments on: Dan Choi Talks DADT with Rachel Maddow</title>
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		<title>By: Matt Algren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Algren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 16:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your reply. I started to reply to some of your thoughts, but my comments got broader and longer, so I gave it &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/05/unit-cohesion-threat-to-national-security-or-boogeyman/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;its own space&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your reply. I started to reply to some of your thoughts, but my comments got broader and longer, so I gave it <a href="http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/05/unit-cohesion-threat-to-national-security-or-boogeyman/" rel="nofollow">its own space</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Algren</title>
		<link>http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/05/dan-choi-talks-dadt-with-rachel-maddow/#comment-4378</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Algren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 16:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your reply. I started to reply to some of your thoughts, but my comments got broader and longer, so I gave it &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/05/unit-cohesion-threat-to-national-security-or-boogeyman/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;its own space&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your reply. I started to reply to some of your thoughts, but my comments got broader and longer, so I gave it <a href="http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/05/unit-cohesion-threat-to-national-security-or-boogeyman/" rel="nofollow">its own space</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: AzPatriot</title>
		<link>http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/05/dan-choi-talks-dadt-with-rachel-maddow/#comment-2427</link>
		<dc:creator>AzPatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 23:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Marine, I have mixed feelings about DADT.  I was always in an infranty combat unit that did not allow women to serve in our units.  We had mostly guys from Texas, New York, and the heartland of the US.  To these guys, tolerence to homosexuality was out of the question.  I&#039;ve friends that got out and later told me they were gay but would never anounce that they were gay while in service because of the marine environment.  

I started my Marine career before the DADT polciy by Clinton.  After the policy, we actually had young marines state that they were gay just to get out of the marines being it was an easy way out of their enlistment contract.  Our Battalion Commander would agree to letting them get out if the marine would come to his office with his partner and open mouth kiss each other.  No takers.  We needed trigger pullers and you were not getting out that easy.

I know there are many highly qualified officers and enlisted people in very technical fields that the military should retain but are gay.  But the military&#039;s job is to kill people and destroy things, pure and simple.  In an infrantry unit, being openly gay would cause unit cohesion problems.  Our society has not matured enough to accept gays in infrantry units.  Is that wrong, yes.  But it is the reality.

Just my thoughts from a different perspective than Choi&#039;s.  I&#039;d like to see responses from Lt. Choi&#039;s men in the New York Guard that serve under him which would support him, just not him saying they support  him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Marine, I have mixed feelings about DADT.  I was always in an infranty combat unit that did not allow women to serve in our units.  We had mostly guys from Texas, New York, and the heartland of the US.  To these guys, tolerence to homosexuality was out of the question.  I&#8217;ve friends that got out and later told me they were gay but would never anounce that they were gay while in service because of the marine environment.  </p>
<p>I started my Marine career before the DADT polciy by Clinton.  After the policy, we actually had young marines state that they were gay just to get out of the marines being it was an easy way out of their enlistment contract.  Our Battalion Commander would agree to letting them get out if the marine would come to his office with his partner and open mouth kiss each other.  No takers.  We needed trigger pullers and you were not getting out that easy.</p>
<p>I know there are many highly qualified officers and enlisted people in very technical fields that the military should retain but are gay.  But the military&#8217;s job is to kill people and destroy things, pure and simple.  In an infrantry unit, being openly gay would cause unit cohesion problems.  Our society has not matured enough to accept gays in infrantry units.  Is that wrong, yes.  But it is the reality.</p>
<p>Just my thoughts from a different perspective than Choi&#8217;s.  I&#8217;d like to see responses from Lt. Choi&#8217;s men in the New York Guard that serve under him which would support him, just not him saying they support  him.</p>
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		<title>By: AzPatriot</title>
		<link>http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/05/dan-choi-talks-dadt-with-rachel-maddow/#comment-4377</link>
		<dc:creator>AzPatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 23:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Marine, I have mixed feelings about DADT.  I was always in an infranty combat unit that did not allow women to serve in our units.  We had mostly guys from Texas, New York, and the heartland of the US.  To these guys, tolerence to homosexuality was out of the question.  I&#039;ve friends that got out and later told me they were gay but would never anounce that they were gay while in service because of the marine environment.  

I started my Marine career before the DADT polciy by Clinton.  After the policy, we actually had young marines state that they were gay just to get out of the marines being it was an easy way out of their enlistment contract.  Our Battalion Commander would agree to letting them get out if the marine would come to his office with his partner and open mouth kiss each other.  No takers.  We needed trigger pullers and you were not getting out that easy.

I know there are many highly qualified officers and enlisted people in very technical fields that the military should retain but are gay.  But the military&#039;s job is to kill people and destroy things, pure and simple.  In an infrantry unit, being openly gay would cause unit cohesion problems.  Our society has not matured enough to accept gays in infrantry units.  Is that wrong, yes.  But it is the reality.

Just my thoughts from a different perspective than Choi&#039;s.  I&#039;d like to see responses from Lt. Choi&#039;s men in the New York Guard that serve under him which would support him, just not him saying they support  him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Marine, I have mixed feelings about DADT.  I was always in an infranty combat unit that did not allow women to serve in our units.  We had mostly guys from Texas, New York, and the heartland of the US.  To these guys, tolerence to homosexuality was out of the question.  I&#8217;ve friends that got out and later told me they were gay but would never anounce that they were gay while in service because of the marine environment.  </p>
<p>I started my Marine career before the DADT polciy by Clinton.  After the policy, we actually had young marines state that they were gay just to get out of the marines being it was an easy way out of their enlistment contract.  Our Battalion Commander would agree to letting them get out if the marine would come to his office with his partner and open mouth kiss each other.  No takers.  We needed trigger pullers and you were not getting out that easy.</p>
<p>I know there are many highly qualified officers and enlisted people in very technical fields that the military should retain but are gay.  But the military&#8217;s job is to kill people and destroy things, pure and simple.  In an infrantry unit, being openly gay would cause unit cohesion problems.  Our society has not matured enough to accept gays in infrantry units.  Is that wrong, yes.  But it is the reality.</p>
<p>Just my thoughts from a different perspective than Choi&#8217;s.  I&#8217;d like to see responses from Lt. Choi&#8217;s men in the New York Guard that serve under him which would support him, just not him saying they support  him.</p>
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