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	<title>Comments on: Episcopal Church Overwhelmingly Approves Pro-LGBT Measure</title>
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		<title>By: rrchapman</title>
		<link>http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/07/episcopal-church-overwhelmingly-approves-pro-lgbt-measure/#comment-3547</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Integrity/USA doth protest too much. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 2006, it is as if they were looking for some reason to be hurt. As it turns out, 2006-B033 did not change any ordination canon. It didn&#039;t even say that a GLBT should not be consecrated a bishop. It only asked that the Episcopal Church consider the wider church when granting consents to ordination of bishops. Considering what Paul had to say about believers eating meat sacrificed to idols (while OK, we shouldn&#039;t do if it benefits someone weaker in the faith), it was a reasonable request--not command--to everyone in the church. Nothing was put in place to stop GLBT ordination.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 2009, D025 goes so far as to say in its explanation that &quot;The acceptance of the ministry of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender persons is not settled in The Episcopal Church or in the Anglican Communion.&quot; The only thing new in D025 says is that there have been GLBT ordained before. D025 addresses entry to the discernment process--without changing anything--by saying we will use our already-existing canons. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nothing changed with D025.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m wondering if all the hoopla around D025 is to draw attention away from D061, the real change to canons. D061 officially opens the discernment process to the transgendered by specifically listing this group in the canon, even though this group was not officially blocked before. Making this change makes clear the intention of General Convention, which is a good thing. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Integrity/USA should stop feeding people Kool-Aid about D025, because it changes nothing. Integrity/USA should start touting D061, because it officially removes a possible block to the discrenment process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Integrity/USA doth protest too much. </p>
<p>In 2006, it is as if they were looking for some reason to be hurt. As it turns out, 2006-B033 did not change any ordination canon. It didn&#39;t even say that a GLBT should not be consecrated a bishop. It only asked that the Episcopal Church consider the wider church when granting consents to ordination of bishops. Considering what Paul had to say about believers eating meat sacrificed to idols (while OK, we shouldn&#39;t do if it benefits someone weaker in the faith), it was a reasonable request&#8211;not command&#8211;to everyone in the church. Nothing was put in place to stop GLBT ordination.</p>
<p>In 2009, D025 goes so far as to say in its explanation that &#8220;The acceptance of the ministry of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender persons is not settled in The Episcopal Church or in the Anglican Communion.&#8221; The only thing new in D025 says is that there have been GLBT ordained before. D025 addresses entry to the discernment process&#8211;without changing anything&#8211;by saying we will use our already-existing canons. </p>
<p>Nothing changed with D025.</p>
<p>I&#39;m wondering if all the hoopla around D025 is to draw attention away from D061, the real change to canons. D061 officially opens the discernment process to the transgendered by specifically listing this group in the canon, even though this group was not officially blocked before. Making this change makes clear the intention of General Convention, which is a good thing. </p>
<p>Integrity/USA should stop feeding people Kool-Aid about D025, because it changes nothing. Integrity/USA should start touting D061, because it officially removes a possible block to the discrenment process.</p>
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		<title>By: rrchapman</title>
		<link>http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/07/episcopal-church-overwhelmingly-approves-pro-lgbt-measure/#comment-2879</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Integrity/USA doth protest too much. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 2006, it is as if they were looking for some reason to be hurt. As it turns out, 2006-B033 did not change any ordination canon. It didn&#039;t even say that a GLBT should not be consecrated a bishop. It only asked that the Episcopal Church consider the wider church when granting consents to ordination of bishops. Considering what Paul had to say about believers eating meat sacrificed to idols (while OK, we shouldn&#039;t do if it benefits someone weaker in the faith), it was a reasonable request--not command--to everyone in the church. Nothing was put in place to stop GLBT ordination.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 2009, D025 goes so far as to say in its explanation that &quot;The acceptance of the ministry of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender persons is not settled in The Episcopal Church or in the Anglican Communion.&quot; The only thing new in D025 says is that there have been GLBT ordained before. D025 addresses entry to the discernment process--without changing anything--by saying we will use our already-existing canons. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nothing changed with D025.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m wondering if all the hoopla around D025 is to draw attention away from D061, the real change to canons. D061 officially opens the discernment process to the transgendered by specifically listing this group in the canon, even though this group was not officially blocked before. Making this change makes clear the intention of General Convention, which is a good thing. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Integrity/USA should stop feeding people Kool-Aid about D025, because it changes nothing. Integrity/USA should start touting D061, because it officially removes a possible block to the discrenment process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Integrity/USA doth protest too much. </p>
<p>In 2006, it is as if they were looking for some reason to be hurt. As it turns out, 2006-B033 did not change any ordination canon. It didn&#39;t even say that a GLBT should not be consecrated a bishop. It only asked that the Episcopal Church consider the wider church when granting consents to ordination of bishops. Considering what Paul had to say about believers eating meat sacrificed to idols (while OK, we shouldn&#39;t do if it benefits someone weaker in the faith), it was a reasonable request&#8211;not command&#8211;to everyone in the church. Nothing was put in place to stop GLBT ordination.</p>
<p>In 2009, D025 goes so far as to say in its explanation that &#8220;The acceptance of the ministry of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender persons is not settled in The Episcopal Church or in the Anglican Communion.&#8221; The only thing new in D025 says is that there have been GLBT ordained before. D025 addresses entry to the discernment process&#8211;without changing anything&#8211;by saying we will use our already-existing canons. </p>
<p>Nothing changed with D025.</p>
<p>I&#39;m wondering if all the hoopla around D025 is to draw attention away from D061, the real change to canons. D061 officially opens the discernment process to the transgendered by specifically listing this group in the canon, even though this group was not officially blocked before. Making this change makes clear the intention of General Convention, which is a good thing. </p>
<p>Integrity/USA should stop feeding people Kool-Aid about D025, because it changes nothing. Integrity/USA should start touting D061, because it officially removes a possible block to the discrenment process.</p>
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